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Planning Your Pet's Grooming Appointment: Why Timing Matters

Planning Your Pet's Grooming Appointment: Why Timing Matters

Welcome to "The Knowledgeable Pet Owner" podcast. In this episode, "Appointment Times," we delve into the world of grooming appointment policies and the importance of scheduling. Our hosts, Denise, Lisa, and Chrissy, discuss the intricate puzzle of m...

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The Knowledgeable Pet Owner

Welcome to "The Knowledgeable Pet Owner" podcast. In this episode, "Appointment Times," we delve into the world of grooming appointment policies and the importance of scheduling. Our hosts, Denise, Lisa, and Chrissy, discuss the intricate puzzle of managing grooming appointments, the impact of owners' punctuality on the grooming process, and the vital role of appointment times in a groomer's schedule. They shine a light on the small business aspect, emphasizing the significance of honoring scheduled appointments for the well-being of groomers and their business. Join us as we demystify the complexities of appointment scheduling in the grooming world and provide insights for both pet owners and groomers.

Transcript
1 00:00:00,330 --> 00:00:03,834 Hello. Welcome to the knowledgeable pet owner. We are here with Denise 2 00:00:03,882 --> 00:00:07,502 Heroux. Lisa Herbold, and I'm Chrissy Neumeyer-Smith. And this 3 00:00:07,556 --> 00:00:11,390 week we are talking about why appointment times 4 00:00:11,460 --> 00:00:15,262 are important. And we really want owners to understand why 5 00:00:15,316 --> 00:00:18,830 our groomers sometimes make the policies that they make. And 6 00:00:18,900 --> 00:00:22,586 let's just talk a little bit about that. Who wants to start? Guess that's 7 00:00:22,618 --> 00:00:26,146 me. I think what's some owners don't 8 00:00:26,178 --> 00:00:29,622 realize is a groomer makes 9 00:00:29,676 --> 00:00:33,254 appointments a certain way because we pretty 10 00:00:33,292 --> 00:00:36,694 much know how long it's going to take to groom a dog. And we 11 00:00:36,732 --> 00:00:40,086 schedule accordingly. We have it, especially 12 00:00:40,188 --> 00:00:43,866 shops with multiple groomers. It's like a 13 00:00:43,888 --> 00:00:47,578 puzzle that we have to put together all the time. And once 14 00:00:47,664 --> 00:00:51,134 one puzzle piece is broken or doesn't work, 15 00:00:51,252 --> 00:00:54,894 it kind of throws off the entire day. I 16 00:00:54,932 --> 00:00:58,506 know mobile, like Chrissy can talk, know mobile 17 00:00:58,538 --> 00:01:02,314 grooming or house call grooming. Denise has multiple 18 00:01:02,362 --> 00:01:05,300 shops, so I can't imagine the headaches that she goes through. 19 00:01:06,150 --> 00:01:09,506 But you're right, I love that you touch base on. It's like a 20 00:01:09,528 --> 00:01:12,530 puzzle, right? It's how I can 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,306 structure. I have a support staff. We have bathers so 22 00:01:16,328 --> 00:01:20,006 that the groomers can focus on grooming and they don't get overworked. We have a 23 00:01:20,028 --> 00:01:23,846 receptionist so that we have better customer service. And 24 00:01:23,948 --> 00:01:27,362 it really is a puzzle. And it can get so 25 00:01:27,436 --> 00:01:30,790 easily thrown off with little hiccups. 26 00:01:30,950 --> 00:01:33,980 And typically our salon has 27 00:01:34,510 --> 00:01:38,314 anywhere between four to six groomers on 28 00:01:38,352 --> 00:01:41,994 staff each day, plus a support staff, which is like two to three 29 00:01:42,032 --> 00:01:45,726 bathers and a receptionist. And I know when to schedule my 30 00:01:45,748 --> 00:01:49,326 bathers. Based on that, I know how to schedule the 31 00:01:49,348 --> 00:01:53,122 groomers so that they can be the most efficient and be able to 32 00:01:53,176 --> 00:01:56,434 accommodate as many amazing clients as we can. 33 00:01:56,632 --> 00:01:59,954 Right. We want to be able to accommodate as many 34 00:01:59,992 --> 00:02:03,698 people in a proper way, so we don't want to 35 00:02:03,704 --> 00:02:07,526 just stack on a whole bunch and call it 36 00:02:07,548 --> 00:02:11,174 a day. We care about the time that our groomers have with 37 00:02:11,212 --> 00:02:14,982 the dogs and it's. Very go for it. 38 00:02:15,036 --> 00:02:18,714 No, go for it. Some shops are one in one where they 39 00:02:18,752 --> 00:02:22,570 only take in one dog and do the bath, the drying and the grooming 40 00:02:24,030 --> 00:02:27,654 all in a row. I know most shops kind of stagger 41 00:02:27,702 --> 00:02:31,434 things and the groomers are finishing a dog while 42 00:02:31,472 --> 00:02:34,942 another dog is getting dried, while another dog that just came in is getting 43 00:02:34,996 --> 00:02:38,570 bathed. So again, to use more metaphors, 44 00:02:38,650 --> 00:02:41,738 it's almost like a dance we're doing. We don't 45 00:02:41,914 --> 00:02:45,474 work on one dog all the way through. That gives 46 00:02:45,512 --> 00:02:49,346 us more opportunities to schedule more. And since 47 00:02:49,528 --> 00:02:53,154 we also have the support staff. We have someone bathing and 48 00:02:53,192 --> 00:02:56,760 while someone's drying and while the groomers are finishing. So 49 00:02:57,370 --> 00:03:00,774 one person who is 15 minutes late throws off that whole 50 00:03:00,812 --> 00:03:04,040 dance. And sometimes it throws off cage space, 51 00:03:05,210 --> 00:03:08,934 depending on how many dogs you planned on having there. And now 52 00:03:08,972 --> 00:03:12,586 one is late and it's overlapping with somebody else who had maybe a 53 00:03:12,608 --> 00:03:15,978 01:00 appointment. The overlap and stuff, I think 54 00:03:16,144 --> 00:03:19,820 it's really kind of a complex system that we have. 55 00:03:20,830 --> 00:03:24,494 Even if you're doing one on one, you're expecting like, okay, I need 56 00:03:24,532 --> 00:03:28,334 this dog to be finished, to be able to provide customer service for this 57 00:03:28,372 --> 00:03:31,898 dog to leave and another one to come in. And sometimes it's 58 00:03:31,994 --> 00:03:35,774 the interruption while grooming that can cause some 59 00:03:35,812 --> 00:03:39,566 interference there, too, because I don't just go out and, well, now I'm 60 00:03:39,598 --> 00:03:42,226 house call. But when I worked in shops, it's not like you just go out 61 00:03:42,248 --> 00:03:45,394 and go, great, same as last time. Bye bye. I want to talk to you, 62 00:03:45,432 --> 00:03:49,254 find out how things are going. But that ten minutes could be taking time away 63 00:03:49,292 --> 00:03:51,960 from a dog who is going home in 15 minutes. 64 00:03:53,290 --> 00:03:57,062 And it's amazing how much a groomer can get done in 65 00:03:57,116 --> 00:04:00,490 ten minutes. It could make or break a day. 66 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,314 We can get an inordinate amount of work done in that little 67 00:04:04,352 --> 00:04:08,138 ten minutes. Yeah, that last ten minutes is the 68 00:04:08,144 --> 00:04:11,630 difference between perfection or his head's lopsided. 69 00:04:14,370 --> 00:04:18,126 But the idea that there are lots of different ways for groomers to 70 00:04:18,148 --> 00:04:21,806 structure their day. But we are planning on a certain amount of 71 00:04:21,828 --> 00:04:25,598 time. And I think what makes grooming different that a lot of our owners don't 72 00:04:25,614 --> 00:04:29,234 necessarily think about is that you are reserving a 73 00:04:29,272 --> 00:04:33,010 portion of a groomer's time. It's our hands 74 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,834 on time, and that's really important because 75 00:04:36,952 --> 00:04:40,726 we only have so much of it. I am limited in how many hours 76 00:04:40,828 --> 00:04:44,566 I can spend grooming because there are only so many hours in the 77 00:04:44,588 --> 00:04:48,422 day, versus a product where we can say, well, we've got six 78 00:04:48,476 --> 00:04:52,220 on the shelf. You're not buying a product, you're buying services. 79 00:04:52,590 --> 00:04:56,186 And we have to think about how much work each groomer is 80 00:04:56,208 --> 00:04:59,946 doing, how much time they actually have. So I think that that's an 81 00:04:59,968 --> 00:05:03,614 important thing for owners to realize, too, that your dog might 82 00:05:03,652 --> 00:05:07,246 take longer, your dog might take less time, but 83 00:05:07,348 --> 00:05:10,910 the appointment times are really important because we're planning our day 84 00:05:10,980 --> 00:05:14,734 according to this weird time frame. I kind of compare it to 85 00:05:14,772 --> 00:05:18,338 trying to figure out how you're going to get Thanksgiving dinner on the 86 00:05:18,344 --> 00:05:21,758 table all at the same time. You've got like, that's 87 00:05:21,774 --> 00:05:25,266 true. On the stove, you've got an oven and a couple of crock pots, and 88 00:05:25,288 --> 00:05:27,574 who knows who else is going to come in? And you've got all these things 89 00:05:27,612 --> 00:05:30,454 and you're trying to time it so it's all on the table at the same 90 00:05:30,492 --> 00:05:33,890 time. And we do schedule in a little leeway 91 00:05:33,970 --> 00:05:37,186 because one hoop 92 00:05:37,218 --> 00:05:40,742 explosion, as I call it, sometimes that 93 00:05:40,796 --> 00:05:44,506 takes time to clean up, or maybe one dog's not in the 94 00:05:44,528 --> 00:05:48,058 mood and we spend a little extra time with them. So then 95 00:05:48,144 --> 00:05:51,966 throwing on top of that, as people are late for their appointments, that 96 00:05:51,988 --> 00:05:55,726 just adds more stress to an already stressful day. We 97 00:05:55,748 --> 00:05:57,680 work with live animals, so 98 00:05:59,970 --> 00:06:03,506 you add in the time factor, right? 99 00:06:03,688 --> 00:06:06,754 And then let's say we're a little behind, 100 00:06:06,872 --> 00:06:10,494 or let's say you're on your way to your grooming 101 00:06:10,542 --> 00:06:13,534 appointment, you're stopped by traffic and you're 102 00:06:13,662 --> 00:06:17,154 elevated and you're stressed. Your dog's picking up on that, too. 103 00:06:17,272 --> 00:06:21,094 So it also takes us sometimes a little bit longer. Not only are you 104 00:06:21,132 --> 00:06:24,774 late, then we also have to work with the dog to get 105 00:06:24,812 --> 00:06:28,154 them back into a more relaxed state. Because they 106 00:06:28,192 --> 00:06:32,042 are sentient beings. Right. We can't make 107 00:06:32,096 --> 00:06:35,850 them do things. We have tricks and tools 108 00:06:36,190 --> 00:06:40,010 and tips to use to hopefully bring that down, 109 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,486 but not all the time will that work right away. 110 00:06:43,588 --> 00:06:46,974 So I know in our last episode when we were talking about 111 00:06:47,012 --> 00:06:50,442 puppies, I'm going to even do this for kittens and cats. 112 00:06:50,586 --> 00:06:54,178 We have a time period. The first 1015 113 00:06:54,264 --> 00:06:57,934 minutes, we actually let them decompress in our salon, 114 00:06:58,062 --> 00:07:01,906 and we have a feel away, which is 115 00:07:02,008 --> 00:07:05,782 pheromones that we use, and we put it on a towel and we let them 116 00:07:05,836 --> 00:07:09,590 get acclimated to our area. If someone is 1015 117 00:07:09,660 --> 00:07:13,286 minutes late and we're taking them, there is a 118 00:07:13,308 --> 00:07:16,614 really big possibility that at 15 minutes, we can 119 00:07:16,652 --> 00:07:20,374 accommodate that. 15 minutes is huge, and it's 120 00:07:20,422 --> 00:07:24,234 taking away that relaxation time, or it's cutting into 121 00:07:24,272 --> 00:07:27,914 the next person's appointment spot. So that location, we 122 00:07:27,952 --> 00:07:31,706 don't have multiple cats dropping off at one time or we're 123 00:07:31,738 --> 00:07:35,550 not stacking them. So we're banking on certain times because 124 00:07:35,620 --> 00:07:38,798 cats have to be done a certain way as well. 125 00:07:38,964 --> 00:07:41,600 And the less time, the better. 126 00:07:43,190 --> 00:07:46,658 I hate using the timer, turkey timers, but 127 00:07:46,824 --> 00:07:50,658 really, Mary, someone that 128 00:07:50,664 --> 00:07:54,194 I know, she uses another analogy, and it's like 129 00:07:54,232 --> 00:07:57,926 water, but you're adding more water, and it just depends on 130 00:07:57,948 --> 00:08:01,622 where their level already started at. So if you're adding water, 131 00:08:01,676 --> 00:08:05,030 the overflow point, and then you're adding trigger. 132 00:08:06,090 --> 00:08:09,722 Trigger stacking. Yeah. I love it. But 133 00:08:09,776 --> 00:08:13,066 those 1015 minutes can be huge. We have 134 00:08:13,088 --> 00:08:16,826 to watch for those things. But that is part 135 00:08:16,848 --> 00:08:20,474 of our time. And this is our career, this is our job, 136 00:08:20,592 --> 00:08:24,166 this is our livelihoods. And those little 137 00:08:24,208 --> 00:08:27,966 hiccups can make or break our day, too. Yeah. So as a 138 00:08:27,988 --> 00:08:31,566 house call groomer, and I used to work on a grooming van, so I can 139 00:08:31,748 --> 00:08:35,274 relate to that, too. Sometimes house call groomers and grooming 140 00:08:35,322 --> 00:08:38,740 vans will give you a between this hour and this hour time 141 00:08:39,750 --> 00:08:43,314 between these times. Because they're trying to efficiently go from house to 142 00:08:43,352 --> 00:08:46,982 house. They're giving themselves a little bit of wiggle room. If a dog is 143 00:08:47,036 --> 00:08:50,294 having a harder time or is maybe extra dirty, something like 144 00:08:50,332 --> 00:08:53,874 that. But the idea is that you're 145 00:08:53,922 --> 00:08:57,734 still, as an owner, responsible for being there for 146 00:08:57,772 --> 00:09:01,606 those times, for that start time. That's part of what we're 147 00:09:01,638 --> 00:09:05,114 reserving for you and you are agreeing to. And that's really 148 00:09:05,152 --> 00:09:08,406 important because as a house call groomer or a mobile 149 00:09:08,438 --> 00:09:12,022 groomer, the chances of us being able to replace 150 00:09:12,086 --> 00:09:15,870 your grooming if we get to your house and no one is there 151 00:09:16,020 --> 00:09:19,822 is zero. We're just out that money. We just are not working 152 00:09:19,876 --> 00:09:23,478 those hours, whatever it was that we had reserved for you. And you're 153 00:09:23,514 --> 00:09:27,154 negative. You're negative because you drove there. 154 00:09:27,192 --> 00:09:30,818 So you have your gas, you have the time, 155 00:09:30,904 --> 00:09:34,740 everything. So you're actually in the negative if. You show you actually spent money 156 00:09:35,190 --> 00:09:37,240 instead of made money for nothing. 157 00:09:39,210 --> 00:09:42,982 And even in a shop environment, often we 158 00:09:43,036 --> 00:09:46,518 talk about, well, if you give us some notice, and that's where we're going to 159 00:09:46,524 --> 00:09:50,306 start talking about some of the policies that you might encounter at grooming shops. 160 00:09:50,418 --> 00:09:54,006 But sometimes they're like, listen, we need two days. We have a waiting 161 00:09:54,038 --> 00:09:57,818 list. A lot of groomers have a waiting list. And if you give us 162 00:09:57,824 --> 00:10:01,386 a couple of days notice, we can pull someone from that waiting list. 163 00:10:01,568 --> 00:10:05,150 But if you just don't show up or you call us the day before, 164 00:10:05,300 --> 00:10:08,814 we might not be able to fill that spot. And the 165 00:10:08,852 --> 00:10:12,526 frustration, I think, for a lot of groomers that they're not good at voicing for 166 00:10:12,548 --> 00:10:16,386 owners to understand. So owners, this is what they're trying to say. If I 167 00:10:16,408 --> 00:10:19,998 have 40 hours a week to groom and I have a waiting 168 00:10:20,014 --> 00:10:23,602 list and a full book, but I'm still not making 40 hours 169 00:10:23,656 --> 00:10:26,740 of money, that affects the bottom line. 170 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:30,966 I'm not actually being allowed to work 40 hours. And you might think, well, my 171 00:10:30,988 --> 00:10:34,326 one dog isn't a big deal, but if it happens with four dogs in a 172 00:10:34,348 --> 00:10:38,140 week, that's the difference between working full time and part time. 173 00:10:39,310 --> 00:10:43,002 And I want to throw out there, I've done the math because I have 174 00:10:43,056 --> 00:10:46,506 so many groomers. One dog a 175 00:10:46,528 --> 00:10:50,378 day, five days a week for 50 weeks, because I'm going 176 00:10:50,384 --> 00:10:54,186 to put in there that groomers are taking off and having vacation 177 00:10:54,298 --> 00:10:57,886 for that one groomer. I want to say, when I did 178 00:10:57,908 --> 00:11:01,614 this, it was our base price for a small dog, which 179 00:11:01,652 --> 00:11:05,330 at the time was $60, and it 180 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,658 equates to $12,000 per 181 00:11:08,744 --> 00:11:11,620 groomer in revenue every year. 182 00:11:12,390 --> 00:11:15,838 And that's just one groomer, and I have four to six. 183 00:11:16,024 --> 00:11:19,334 So imagine their income and 184 00:11:19,532 --> 00:11:22,834 the healthy aspect of our business to be able to keep our doors 185 00:11:22,882 --> 00:11:26,534 open. So that's a huge number. When you think about 186 00:11:26,572 --> 00:11:30,314 that. That's $12,000 a year per groomer. And 187 00:11:30,352 --> 00:11:33,994 that's for a small dog. That's not a large dog. So it's only 188 00:11:34,032 --> 00:11:37,674 one dog. It adds up because it's not just one 189 00:11:37,712 --> 00:11:41,526 person. And groomers get paid a variety 190 00:11:41,558 --> 00:11:45,278 of ways, but even if they are hourly, the business 191 00:11:45,364 --> 00:11:48,970 isn't making the money it was supposed to if it was fully booked. 192 00:11:49,050 --> 00:11:52,458 Imagine being fully booked and turning people away and putting them on a 193 00:11:52,484 --> 00:11:56,254 cancellation list and still not making payroll 194 00:11:56,302 --> 00:11:57,700 the way you're supposed to. 195 00:12:00,230 --> 00:12:04,062 That's the frustration. So a lot of groomers have started doing cancellation 196 00:12:04,126 --> 00:12:07,334 policies where either if, you know, 197 00:12:07,372 --> 00:12:10,902 show, you pay full price, and 198 00:12:11,036 --> 00:12:14,658 I haven't had to do that in my business, but I'm very small and I'm 199 00:12:14,674 --> 00:12:18,358 house call, and my owners are epically awesome. So I 200 00:12:18,364 --> 00:12:22,214 haven't run into it yet, but it does make sense. And I know sometimes owners 201 00:12:22,262 --> 00:12:25,866 are a little bit like, why would I pay if I didn't go? But you 202 00:12:25,888 --> 00:12:29,238 reserved that time. It's a time reservation, 203 00:12:29,414 --> 00:12:32,734 and you might be charged full price for that time 204 00:12:32,772 --> 00:12:36,526 block. And every service industry these days 205 00:12:36,628 --> 00:12:40,314 is doing it. I have piercings, 206 00:12:40,362 --> 00:12:43,678 and if I go to my piercing place to even just shop, I have to 207 00:12:43,684 --> 00:12:47,506 make an appointment and they will charge me up to $10 if 208 00:12:47,528 --> 00:12:50,306 I don't show up because that could have been a space for someone else who 209 00:12:50,328 --> 00:12:54,178 could have purchased something. And so even when I 210 00:12:54,184 --> 00:12:58,014 do it for my nails, I'm signing off. I missed my massage 211 00:12:58,062 --> 00:13:01,814 today because I had to work and I had call offs, and guess 212 00:13:01,852 --> 00:13:05,526 who had to pay for it? I did, because I couldn't make it 213 00:13:05,548 --> 00:13:09,082 to, and that shouldn't affect the person who's doing it. 214 00:13:09,216 --> 00:13:12,380 So it's definitely a more normal thing now, 215 00:13:13,950 --> 00:13:17,686 but it's popping up everywhere and it's 216 00:13:17,718 --> 00:13:21,534 because it's a time thing. You're buying time. You're not buying the 217 00:13:21,572 --> 00:13:25,294 service, you're buying the time. We'll say 218 00:13:25,412 --> 00:13:28,926 most groomers are on commission, usually 219 00:13:29,108 --> 00:13:32,846 around 50%. So just think, even if you don't show up 220 00:13:32,868 --> 00:13:35,754 with a small dog, that groomer is out 221 00:13:35,812 --> 00:13:39,506 $30 for that one day. If it's a 222 00:13:39,528 --> 00:13:42,898 bigger dog, say it's $100 dog, they're out $50. 223 00:13:43,064 --> 00:13:46,550 That would be like someone going up to you and saying, hey, I'm taking 224 00:13:46,620 --> 00:13:49,350 these $30 out of your paycheck. 225 00:13:50,890 --> 00:13:54,546 You did nothing wrong. But I don't 226 00:13:54,578 --> 00:13:58,380 feel like paying this, so I'm not going to pay it. So 227 00:13:58,990 --> 00:14:02,566 it hurts the groomers. We were paid by commission. 228 00:14:02,758 --> 00:14:06,554 Well, I think, too, a lot of Americans don't understand the 229 00:14:06,592 --> 00:14:10,234 small business aspect. Small businesses are 230 00:14:10,272 --> 00:14:13,974 just really different than a large corporation. Like, oh, 231 00:14:14,032 --> 00:14:17,646 well, somebody didn't show up, so I got to take a late lunch break or 232 00:14:17,668 --> 00:14:21,514 something. I don't work in an insurance company. I don't have a desk 233 00:14:21,562 --> 00:14:25,362 job. The idea that I'm here at work with 234 00:14:25,416 --> 00:14:29,122 not enough to do, but I'm here, and 235 00:14:29,256 --> 00:14:32,786 I want to make money, and I had it lined up to make money, and 236 00:14:32,808 --> 00:14:33,810 now I can't. 237 00:14:36,470 --> 00:14:40,278 Some of these businesses, the fees have all gone up because 238 00:14:40,364 --> 00:14:44,022 our prices have gone up. Our shampoo costs during 239 00:14:44,076 --> 00:14:47,838 COVID everything went up. A lot of that has to do with the packaging 240 00:14:47,874 --> 00:14:51,610 and the shipping and all those things for our shampoos, but everything 241 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,290 has gone up. And small businesses struggle differently 242 00:14:55,870 --> 00:14:59,482 than what most people realize. I still tell 243 00:14:59,536 --> 00:15:02,378 people, they're like, oh, it must be nice to go away whenever you want. I'm 244 00:15:02,394 --> 00:15:05,840 like, yeah, I'm a house call groomer. I cannot make money whenever I want. 245 00:15:08,770 --> 00:15:12,240 If I'm not working, I'm not making the money. Right? 246 00:15:13,010 --> 00:15:16,606 Yeah. I think people forget that that's the groomer's 247 00:15:16,638 --> 00:15:20,114 life. We're not working. We're not making money. Well, that's small 248 00:15:20,152 --> 00:15:23,666 business. If your kids dance class, if 249 00:15:23,688 --> 00:15:27,318 nobody shows up to dance class and you don't get paid for that 250 00:15:27,324 --> 00:15:30,902 dance class, that dance studio is eventually going to go out of business if people 251 00:15:30,956 --> 00:15:33,320 just disregard those times. 252 00:15:34,730 --> 00:15:38,422 What if it takes 15 people in a karate class to make that class 253 00:15:38,476 --> 00:15:41,820 happen every week and to keep that facility open? 254 00:15:42,190 --> 00:15:45,322 So we have to think about the small business aspect in a lot of ways, 255 00:15:45,376 --> 00:15:48,714 the small business aspect is really important to think 256 00:15:48,752 --> 00:15:52,298 about. Yes. Those fees 257 00:15:52,474 --> 00:15:56,106 and stuff is not to punish anybody. It's 258 00:15:56,138 --> 00:15:59,646 to help sustain a healthy business, to make sure that we're keeping our 259 00:15:59,668 --> 00:16:03,186 doors open so it's not a punishment for 260 00:16:03,208 --> 00:16:06,834 owners. It is literally for us to be 261 00:16:06,872 --> 00:16:10,580 able to service the way that we want to service the community. 262 00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:15,410 Yes, absolutely. And those fees can be waived 263 00:16:16,470 --> 00:16:20,134 usually if somebody is not home and I get to their house, my first thought 264 00:16:20,172 --> 00:16:23,766 is, is everybody okay? And I'm glad that's the way I think because a couple 265 00:16:23,788 --> 00:16:27,302 of times there has been like, somebody was in the hospital or something happened, 266 00:16:27,436 --> 00:16:29,846 and I'm like, well, of course I'm not going to charge you, but most of 267 00:16:29,868 --> 00:16:33,706 my customers were like, I'll pay. I'm sorry. I'm like, you were 268 00:16:33,728 --> 00:16:37,146 in the hospital. Like I said, my customers are 269 00:16:37,168 --> 00:16:40,974 awesome. But the idea that I can waive that, listen, 270 00:16:41,012 --> 00:16:44,750 it wasn't your fault. Something happened. Rescheduling happens. Things 271 00:16:44,820 --> 00:16:48,494 come up. But do remember that we are basing our 272 00:16:48,532 --> 00:16:52,094 entire day's workload on your dog being 273 00:16:52,132 --> 00:16:55,666 there when we expect them. Does that about wrap it 274 00:16:55,688 --> 00:16:59,250 up? Yeah, I think that's good. 275 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,058 I think that's good. So I guess the big takeaway is when you're 276 00:17:03,064 --> 00:17:06,914 making your appointments, please make sure they're in your calendar. Make sure 277 00:17:06,952 --> 00:17:10,534 that you remember when they're going to happen. If your dog is really 278 00:17:10,572 --> 00:17:14,134 dirty or something or extra tangled, please let us know 279 00:17:14,252 --> 00:17:17,558 so that we know to make enough time for that so that your dog can 280 00:17:17,564 --> 00:17:21,094 be completed. And just keep in mind, we don't have these 281 00:17:21,132 --> 00:17:24,470 cancellation fees and policies and stuff to make your life hard. 282 00:17:24,620 --> 00:17:28,194 Correct. So I hope you enjoyed this episode of the knowledgeable 283 00:17:28,242 --> 00:17:31,818 pet owner again. That was Denise hero Lisa Herbold, and I'm Chrissy 284 00:17:31,834 --> 00:17:35,246 Neumayer Smith. And come to us with all of your questions. 285 00:17:35,428 --> 00:17:35,786 Bye.